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Old 06-06-2008, 10:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR ANY GRAMMAR OR SPELLING MISTAKES

I know this has prolly been asked here before more than once, and i apologize in advance for those that think this is a waste of a thread and that searching would have answered my questions.

I can't decide if i want the Speed3 or the SRT4.

I've done tons of research on the Speed3, read on multiple forums for months about this car and how it handles power etc.

I wouldn't really say im new to SRT4's because i've always been a fan and used to read the NSRT4 forums a lot a few years back, never did own either of the two cars tho. I've been reading on this forum for the past few days trying to learn all i could.

Some things i like about the speed3 that the srt4 doesn't offer.

Speed3:
GT package with projector HID headlights and LED tails
Dash has a really nice lay out
Steering wheel controls

I do admit that the srt4 looks A LOT more aggresive than the speed3 but at the same time it looks kinda like a suv/minivan.

I'm not really looking for these to be luxury cars or anything like that, i just dont want it to be so simple an plain as say the old nsrt. Which is why i like the speed3, it just seems to have more of a nicer feel to it inside.

I've driven the speed3 a few times now and liked it, its fast but for sure needs upgrades asap. I haven't driven the new srt4, i will prolly go drive one tomorrow.

I want to get the car that is going to be able to handle the most power in the long run, because i know i will always want more power, and the ability to mod needs to be there.

So some questions i have are, how much power is being made with all the mods that are out right now? what is being done about traction, i know on the speed3 replacing the rear engine mount helped traction and reduced wheel hop. is there anything like this for the srt4?

I saw some post of the srt4 that ran mid 12's with slicks, but i believe it had an upgraded turbo or something along those lines. That was a good time but if i remember right he was using slicks, so that changes things.

I remember some time ago someone got their speed3 into the high 12's on stick turbo and street tires untuned, which i thought was pretty good.

Sorry for the long post, hope someone can help me out and answer some of these questions and maybe convince me to get a srt4.
Alright Im in the same boat as you are pretty much, other then the fact Im a Chrysler guy myself (if the MS3 came in sedan form I would buy it over the CSRT) CSRT4 in my honest opinion looks alot better not only does it not look like any other caliber out there but it has aggressive styling and performance to back it up. Unlike the MS3 which, unless you know what your looking for, looks like a regular Mazda 3 hatch.

As for feel I have driven either Ive been told the CSRT doesnt feel as fast as it is, especially from a dig 3-4th gears it pulls like a bat out of hell though.

Mods, I can almost gaurentee CSRT4 will take mods better, Mattyice from the Caliberforums with the realtune stage 1 ran 13s quite easily, and with a realtune stage 2 ran 12 secs on drag radials not slicks.
Realtune Stage 2 package :
Tuning module [tune untouched from the 360whp dyno run]
625cc injectors
Realtune big compressor wheel stock turbo upgrade
ED turboback exhaust
Realtune Prototype WGA 18psi
TXS MBC bleeding boost to 22psi falling to 21psi


Those are the mods, not a whole lot in my opinion. And you have to remember this cars only been out several months unlike the MS3 which has been out for over 2 years.

As for interior, these cars were designed with a target price range in mind. With that being said I enjoy the Calibers interior very much especially for the price with great performance to boot.

On top of that for me (other then the fact the MS3 looks like a regular mazda 3 hatch) Ive seen dozens of MS3s where I live (Mesa, AZ) and I have only seen 1 CSRT4. Having a car that no one else has is something that appeals to me but thats me.
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