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07-02-2009, 12:52 AM

how are you getting this replaced under warranty? piggy-backing the ecu is pretty much the optimum way to void any service warranty on vehicles, but maybe you have a primo dealer.

GreaseMonkey · 07-02-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by iluvhootersu

it might as well have been the block they still replace the block

Well, I understand that but an actual fully cracked block is much more catastrophic than a cracked siamese cylinder wall.

iluvhootersu · 07-02-2009, 09:13 PM

well i havent heard from them yet but tomorrow for sure i will but...but i called usaa and filed insurance fraud against gerber collision. so i think that insurance will cover it or warrenty cuz all i know i wont pay and they dont know that i have the clamp so i am blaming it all on gerber plus they fuck me over pretty bad just ask john ther is 4 big fuck up by them they chard my insurance for a intake manifold and used the old one and plastic welded one of the fins on front bumber was a used part just painted over

WANAGO · 07-06-2009, 09:20 AM

Sorry to hear about your mishap but I have a question .
18-20 psi on stock PCM without going into Limp Mode?
(I do see you have a Map/Tip clamp and bigger injectors) I think you are the first I READ OF that has boosted above 15 psi and not go into limp mode on the stock PCM (without FIC)
Am I reading properly or did I miss something?

DISSST · 07-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Map/Tip clamp is the key

iluvhootersu · 07-06-2009, 10:00 PM

Actually I was boosting 21-22 at point holding until my afr would fuck up aaround like 5000rpm. I just don't feel like waiting 3 months for different fuel maps when I can piggy back and get more boost for cheap. I mean don't get me wrong I'm going to get the mps1 but not until chyrsler gets there shit right maybe in august I will

SUNBEAST ORANGE · 07-10-2009, 10:15 AM

sounds to me like you ran outa fuel........i don't see anywhere in your line up where you supplied fuel for that kind of boost. lower rpm is one thing but at the higher rpm you cylinders were ingesting so much oxgen you ran dry.
bigger injector size only means/states what they are capable of flowing. but that doesn't mean anything if there is nothing comanding them to squirt more in. I dont know.........you have my heart felt sympathy. i have first hand experience with this scenario so I know how you feel. heartbreaking.

08srt4caliber · 07-10-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNBEAST ORANGE

sounds to me like you ran outa fuel........i don't see anywhere in your line up where you supplied fuel for that kind of boost. lower rpm is one thing but at the higher rpm you cylinders were ingesting so much oxgen you ran dry.
bigger injector size only means/states what they are capable of flowing. but that doesn't mean anything if there is nothing comanding them to squirt more in. I dont know.........you have my heart felt sympathy. i have first hand experience with this scenario so I know how you feel. heartbreaking.

590CC injectors are for the fuel.............

Dan08srt4 · 07-11-2009, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNBEAST ORANGE

sounds to me like you ran outa fuel........i don't see anywhere in your line up where you supplied fuel for that kind of boost. lower rpm is one thing but at the higher rpm you cylinders were ingesting so much oxgen you ran dry.
bigger injector size only means/states what they are capable of flowing. but that doesn't mean anything if there is nothing comanding them to squirt more in. I dont know.........you have my heart felt sympathy. i have first hand experience with this scenario so I know how you feel. heartbreaking.

Fatter garden hose, more water.

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Originally Posted by 08srt4caliber

590CC injectors are for the fuel.............

IDK what 'cha did man... but it doesnt sound good.

best of luck not footing the bill.

SUNBEAST ORANGE · 07-11-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 08srt4caliber

590CC injectors are for the fuel.............

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Originally Posted by Dan08srt4

Fatter garden hose, more water.

"Absolutely wrong thinking guy's",,,,,,,,,,"590cc" only states what those injectors are "capable" of flowing. Wheres the re-maping of the fuel curve that tells those injectors to flow more fuel and changes the "duty cycle" of those injectors at those boost levels. I don't see any item which does that. On the "stock" ( I don't see MS1 there) computer there's a ceiling, only so much lee-way that it can accomodate a change in boost. That works only to a certain extent and then it can't keep up with the demands. How many people have mistakenly thrown a blower or NOS with a set of bigger injectors on their car without addressing the fuel maping/curve and blown up their engine,,,,,,happens all the time. In this cenario I suspect the MAP/TIP clamp went beyond the "stock" computers capability. one good hot day and you get caught with your pants down. How far can you go with a M/T clamp lieing to the computer, telling it your runnig 12 PSI when you really running 22 PSI.
In short bigger injectors don't neccessarily mean more fuel. If that were true your car would not idle or drive on moderate cruise correctly the minute you put bigger injectors in. The computer doesn't know that you did all this
sh#%t to your car. That fuel curve needs to be re-mapped somehow.

07-02-2009, 09:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
iluvhootersu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: parkland, wa Posts: 313	well i havent heard from them yet but tomorrow for sure i will but...but i called usaa and filed insurance fraud against gerber collision. so i think that insurance will cover it or warrenty cuz all i know i wont pay and they dont know that i have the clamp so i am blaming it all on gerber plus they fuck me over pretty bad just ask john ther is 4 big fuck up by them they chard my insurance for a intake manifold and used the old one and plastic welded one of the fins on front bumber was a used part just painted over __________________ -bwoody upper pressure pipe w/psi turbo xs bov -3 inch custum fab ram intake -perrin manual boost controller -exaust depot 3'' exhaust with rez -ptp custom magnaflow cat -mpx triple pillar -ptp 16psi wga -590cc injectors -innovate lc-1 wideband -ngk iridium 1 step colder gaped .032 -xd-16 a/f ratio gauge -ptp map/tip -autosport boost gauge -flat black hood 18 psi

07-06-2009, 09:20 AM	#24 (permalink)
WANAGO MASTER OF CHEAP Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SUFFOLK COUNTY,LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 13	Sorry to hear about your mishap but I have a question . 18-20 psi on stock PCM without going into Limp Mode? (I do see you have a Map/Tip clamp and bigger injectors) I think you are the first I READ OF that has boosted above 15 psi and not go into limp mode on the stock PCM (without FIC) Am I reading properly or did I miss something? __________________

07-06-2009, 05:40 PM	#25 (permalink)
DISSST Team Disst Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sanger , Texas Posts: 401	Map/Tip clamp is the key __________________ Nothing is, what it appears to be

07-06-2009, 10:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
iluvhootersu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: parkland, wa Posts: 313	Actually I was boosting 21-22 at point holding until my afr would fuck up aaround like 5000rpm. I just don't feel like waiting 3 months for different fuel maps when I can piggy back and get more boost for cheap. I mean don't get me wrong I'm going to get the mps1 but not until chyrsler gets there shit right maybe in august I will __________________ -bwoody upper pressure pipe w/psi turbo xs bov -3 inch custum fab ram intake -perrin manual boost controller -exaust depot 3'' exhaust with rez -ptp custom magnaflow cat -mpx triple pillar -ptp 16psi wga -590cc injectors -innovate lc-1 wideband -ngk iridium 1 step colder gaped .032 -xd-16 a/f ratio gauge -ptp map/tip -autosport boost gauge -flat black hood 18 psi

07-10-2009, 10:15 AM	#27 (permalink)
SUNBEAST ORANGE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island N.Y. Posts: 462	sounds to me like you ran outa fuel........i don't see anywhere in your line up where you supplied fuel for that kind of boost. lower rpm is one thing but at the higher rpm you cylinders were ingesting so much oxgen you ran dry. bigger injector size only means/states what they are capable of flowing. but that doesn't mean anything if there is nothing comanding them to squirt more in. I dont know.........you have my heart felt sympathy. i have first hand experience with this scenario so I know how you feel. heartbreaking. __________________ "I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE-IN-FRONT-OF-ME THAN A FRONTAL LOBOTOMY" 2008 SUNBEAST ORANGE CSRT MPS1 NGK IRIDIUM'S MPx DOWNPIPE (cat'd) AGP WG/ACT TURBOSMART M/BOOST CNTRLR BWOODY TRACTN BARS CATCH CAN (new and improved) BWOODY CHECK VALVE

07-02-2009, 12:52 AM	#21 (permalink)
elitesigs Posts: n/a	how are you getting this replaced under warranty? piggy-backing the ecu is pretty much the optimum way to void any service warranty on vehicles, but maybe you have a primo dealer.

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