How effective are mods really? - Dodge Caliber SRT-4 Forums

bigtom225 · 10-31-2009, 08:56 AM

Hello, Everyone
I have never posted on the forum before today. I just bought a silver 08 csrt-4. The car is brand new. I have owned it for 3 months. I just added a K&N drop in filter and I had the muffler removed at a local shop and the stock tip reinstalled straight out the back. It was alittle to raspy and loud so I had a 4 inch round resonator 18" long welded in and now it sounds awesome. Stage 1 coming next. But my question is if the computer in these cars limits torque in every gear is doing mods any good. I mean I can add all the power I want but if the computer simply limits power to a certain level then do mods even work? I just was wondering peoples thoughts on this one.
Thanks great forum!

rayjj · 10-31-2009, 09:47 AM

It limits it to a point, mods are still going to help. All the mods I have listed in my sig, I felt the biggest gain from stage 1, next would be the downpipe. I didn't notice gains from anything else.

Malov · 10-31-2009, 09:51 AM

Sure adding mods to your car will help it hit the flbTQ wall a lot faster lol. I wouldn't do anything more then basic bolt ons or exhaust until you get a CLAMP or FIC. I'm stuck on deciding which one to get because I want to use all the power my car has instead of being limited. Once you get the MS1 your exhaust will sound a little quieter but I'm not sure why.

SLVCSRT408 · 10-31-2009, 10:51 AM

First off congrats and welcome to the forums, good choice of color lol. Yeah the mods you do will help you, like someone previously said the mods will help you get to that limit on the horsepower and torque faster. There are people that I know putting down 440 Hp to the wheels, there are always ways around the computer. For example the clamp, thats going to be my next mod till they come out with a hand held tuner. Post some pics when you can, I think its like 15 more post and you can post pictures.

gonzosyfz450 · 11-01-2009, 07:34 AM

Most definately make a difference. I have the MS1, MPx cat'd downpipe, mopar intake box, MPx single exit exahust, and AGP WGA I boost to about 17.5 in every gear but 5th & 6th and I ran 13.15 1/4 mile according to scan gauge. On the eagle f1's and it's cold here in Germany so not best traction. So I would say web with PCM limits mods make a sizable difference. I will be putting my clamp an injectors in this week to see what happens.

08csrt-4black · 11-01-2009, 09:11 AM

If you don't plan on running the clamp what list of mods would be affective before hitting the cutoff with the pcm? Seeing what mods I have done on my sig how much further should I go? wga,motor mount inserts, inlet tube,dp? Am i missing anything...

Dan08srt4 · 11-01-2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08csrt-4black

If you don't plan on running the clamp what list of mods would be affective before hitting the cutoff with the pcm? Seeing what mods I have done on my sig how much further should I go? wga,motor mount inserts, inlet tube,dp? Am i missing anything...

maybe a downpipe but otherwise you look to be at the stage 1 limited area.

Malov · 11-01-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08csrt-4black

If you don't plan on running the clamp what list of mods would be affective before hitting the cutoff with the pcm? Seeing what mods I have done on my sig how much further should I go? wga,motor mount inserts, inlet tube,dp? Am i missing anything...

From dyno's that I have seen via youtube or here you can hit the pcm limit with just a MS1 and K&N. But even with that you can still make your car perform better by adding basic bolt on mods.

NJCSRT4 · 11-01-2009, 08:20 PM

i have to agree with what rayjj said...I didn'treally feel too much of a difference with all the bolt ons...the biggest different was with the stage one. I had all the other mods done before the stage one...I think if i had done the DP after the stage one...or even the muffler delete I would have noticed some more power...but I think the computer limits the car pretty well...

turbojosrt4 · 11-01-2009, 08:33 PM

bolt ons are more for unlocking power rather then giving you power like the ms1, clamp, etc

10-31-2009, 08:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
bigtom225 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1	How effective are mods really? Hello, Everyone I have never posted on the forum before today. I just bought a silver 08 csrt-4. The car is brand new. I have owned it for 3 months. I just added a K&N drop in filter and I had the muffler removed at a local shop and the stock tip reinstalled straight out the back. It was alittle to raspy and loud so I had a 4 inch round resonator 18" long welded in and now it sounds awesome. Stage 1 coming next. But my question is if the computer in these cars limits torque in every gear is doing mods any good. I mean I can add all the power I want but if the computer simply limits power to a certain level then do mods even work? I just was wondering peoples thoughts on this one. Thanks great forum!

10-31-2009, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
rayjj Studmuffin Mod Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,705	It limits it to a point, mods are still going to help. All the mods I have listed in my sig, I felt the biggest gain from stage 1, next would be the downpipe. I didn't notice gains from anything else. __________________ Stage 1..MPx catted downpipe..MPx dual out muffler..AEM intake..AEM UEGO..Scanguage..AGP front mount..AGP Catch Can..BWoody Check Valve..291.6HP/293.1TQ __________________________________

10-31-2009, 09:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Malov Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 106	Sure adding mods to your car will help it hit the flbTQ wall a lot faster lol. I wouldn't do anything more then basic bolt ons or exhaust until you get a CLAMP or FIC. I'm stuck on deciding which one to get because I want to use all the power my car has instead of being limited. Once you get the MS1 your exhaust will sound a little quieter but I'm not sure why. __________________ Mopar Stage 1 MPx Downpipe with Cat MPx Pulley K&N Cold air Intake NGK Iridium Colder Spark Plugs Muffler Delete Agp Uppipe HKS Black BOV Aeroforce Interceptor AEM Wideband Air/Fuel Goodyear Eagle GT Tires 245/40/19 1/4 13.86 @ 103 (Aeroforce Gauge) 0-60 4.78 (Aeroforce Gauge) Dyno Results Coming When I get Clamped!

10-31-2009, 10:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
SLVCSRT408 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 481	Congrats First off congrats and welcome to the forums, good choice of color lol. Yeah the mods you do will help you, like someone previously said the mods will help you get to that limit on the horsepower and torque faster. There are people that I know putting down 440 Hp to the wheels, there are always ways around the computer. For example the clamp, thats going to be my next mod till they come out with a hand held tuner. Post some pics when you can, I think its like 15 more post and you can post pictures. __________________ 2008 Silver CSRT4 1/4 mile: 14.102 @ 101 MPH (BEFORE MPS 1) 1/4 mile: 13.803 @ 104.35 MPH ( AFTER MPS 1) Yeah I got my 13 sticker finally! woo hoo MODS MOPAR STAGE 1 WOW NGK COLDER PLUGS GAP .34 CUSTOM JMB PERFORMANCE SRI CUSTOM JMB MUFFLER DELETE NEEDSWINGS DP W/O CAT MOPAR BOP ADJUSTED STOCK WG 17 PSI MODS SITTING AT HOME NOT INSTALLED YET: AGP WASTE GATE(TBD) HALLMAN PRO SERIES MANUAL BOOST CONTROLLER

11-01-2009, 07:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
gonzosyfz450 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 106	Most definately make a difference. I have the MS1, MPx cat'd downpipe, mopar intake box, MPx single exit exahust, and AGP WGA I boost to about 17.5 in every gear but 5th & 6th and I ran 13.15 1/4 mile according to scan gauge. On the eagle f1's and it's cold here in Germany so not best traction. So I would say web with PCM limits mods make a sizable difference. I will be putting my clamp an injectors in this week to see what happens. __________________ Mopar stage one/ MPx uppipe HKS SSQV/ BWoody checkvalve/ Mopar Cold air intake/ NGK colder plugs/MPx cat'd downpipe/MPx single exit muffler/AGP wategate actuator/RC 550cc injectors (uninstalled)/Real Tune map/tip clamp (not installed)/AEM uego/Aeroforce scan gauge/MPx short antenna/Mpx Black strut bar 17psi 1/4mile 13.15 @ 110mph 1/8mile 8.61 @ 88mph 0-60mph 4.78s

11-01-2009, 09:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
08csrt-4black Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Palmdale,Ca Posts: 69	If you don't plan on running the clamp what list of mods would be affective before hitting the cutoff with the pcm? Seeing what mods I have done on my sig how much further should I go? wga,motor mount inserts, inlet tube,dp? Am i missing anything... __________________ 2008 Black CSRT-4 -Mopar stage 1 -K&N Drop in filter -Mopar BOP -NGK Iridium spark plugs 0.31(stage colder) -MPX ninja blk strut bar -Muffler Delete Best 1/4 mile:13.7 @ 101.9mph Myspace/AvDyNasty.com

11-01-2009, 08:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
NJCSRT4 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,350	i have to agree with what rayjj said...I didn'treally feel too much of a difference with all the bolt ons...the biggest different was with the stage one. I had all the other mods done before the stage one...I think if i had done the DP after the stage one...or even the muffler delete I would have noticed some more power...but I think the computer limits the car pretty well... __________________ Mopar Stage 1 Garrett 60 trim turbo 44mm TiAL EXT. WGA SteedSpeed manifold/Southbend stage 3 clutch AEM FIC/Return Fuel System (750 injector) Aeromotive regulator MPx single CAT downpipe (modified for T3 flange) custom exhaust/dual 4 inch tips TiAL 50mm BOV MPX strut bar 4inch intake/small battery kit NGK Iridium 3 stage Colder Plugs BWoody Check Valve/AGP Catch Can Mopar Sway Bars Concealed radar detector/laser jammer

11-01-2009, 08:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
turbojosrt4 moderate this...... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: orlando Posts: 260	bolt ons are more for unlocking power rather then giving you power like the ms1, clamp, etc __________________ 08 cali srt4 silver KicKer SysTem MoDs Ms1 Mpx Single Exhaust Mpx Catless DP Mpx Shorty Antenna Mpx Strut Bar Mpx Dual Pods Bop TinT 5% AeroForce Gauge AEM Wideband Guage NGK Iridium Plugs .32 AGP WasteGate AGP Motor Mount JMB 4" Intake Road Magnet's Drag Bwoody Check Valve Tinted Tails

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