Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? - Dodge Caliber SRT-4 Forums

mouser · 02-04-2010, 08:08 AM

I've dealt with my insurer and made a switch. I'm now free to upgrade my car's ECU.

So, I'm rather impatient and have money NOW to make the upgrade but, I'm thorn about which way to go.

MS1 is obvious no-brainer and opens up the car for more mods (clamp, injector, Meth etc)

Diablo is a wet dream that could most definitely yield more power. IF it ever comes out.

RT Flash, unreleased yet as Diablo, is another wet dream. Part of the team is currently recovering from health issue and have yet to have had info from other team members. :-( Unlike Diablo, this wouldn't give me reconfigurability, but could possibly yield better performance (I mean, they're pro tuners and they know what they're doing whereas with me and Diablo, i'd have to pussy around a lot to get a decent tune I suppose).

So, what's your take on this? I'm interested in everyone's testimonials, including vendors like RT for their flash (sell me something!) and NeedsWings for their Mopar ECU offer (a whole 2$ cheaper than MPx AND they are a supporting vendor!)

Mighty Joe Young · 02-04-2010, 08:17 AM

MS1 if you can't wait and i'm sure you could get one ordered to your front steps in about 2 weeks.

RT flash will most likely be worth the wait, if you want to wait that long for more power.

My vote is for the MS1 since it is available right now.

MINI HEMI · 02-04-2010, 08:23 AM

waaait... so your insurance compony has a problem with you modding ur car?
i have USAA and they have never said anything to me. when i bought it and called to update the guy actually asked if i was gonna mod and we chatted blah blah blah.
So back to my question, they gonna drop you for mods or whats the deal there?

rayjj · 02-04-2010, 08:31 AM

MS1 is available, go for it! The other options will be great also, but I am like you, impatient lol!

mouser · 02-04-2010, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MINI HEMI

waaait... so your insurance compony has a problem with you modding ur car?
i have USAA and they have never said anything to me. when i bought it and called to update the guy actually asked if i was gonna mod and we chatted blah blah blah.
So back to my question, they gonna drop you for mods or whats the deal there?

Well, technically, the MS1 is not a legal road part (emissions issues) and was told by my insurer that if I were to put that on my car, they wouldn't cover me on the road because the car is not a legal road car, but a race car.

RatherNotSay · 02-04-2010, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MINI HEMI

waaait... so your insurance compony has a problem with you modding ur car?
i have USAA and they have never said anything to me. when i bought it and called to update the guy actually asked if i was gonna mod and we chatted blah blah blah.
So back to my question, they gonna drop you for mods or whats the deal there?

USAA is a joke...You cant even call them an insurance company. They have ridiculously low prices for gov. only. They wouldn't question you if you hit a pack of nuns while driving under the influence.

RatherNotSay · 02-04-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mouser

Well, technically, the MS1 is not a legal road part (emissions issues) and was told by my insurer that if I were to put that on my car, they wouldn't cover me on the road because the car is not a legal road car, but a race car.

What are you doing telling your insurance company about what you put on YOUR car?

mouser · 02-04-2010, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatherNotSay

What are you doing telling your insurance company about what you put on YOUR car?

They inspect vehicles on claims.

Touzi · 02-04-2010, 09:27 AM

Well i say dont do any of those mods for now and just do a map clamp u can do that with a stock computer and get more power out of that for now then u can with a ms1 or anything

mouser · 02-04-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touzi

Well i say dont do any of those mods for now and just do a map clamp u can do that with a stock computer and get more power out of that for now then u can with a ms1 or anything

Any vendor/tuner can comment on this?

Dont clamps require additional hardware like widebans, gauges etc?

Seems every mod out there requires MS1 to unlock crapload of restrictions.

View Poll Results: What ECU upgrade would you have me do?
Mopar MS1: the no-brainer solution	25	67.57%
RealTune's upcoming flash	8	21.62%
Diablo's wet dream	4	10.81%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

02-04-2010, 08:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
mouser Mod tape Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 3,714	Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? I've dealt with my insurer and made a switch. I'm now free to upgrade my car's ECU. So, I'm rather impatient and have money NOW to make the upgrade but, I'm thorn about which way to go. MS1 is obvious no-brainer and opens up the car for more mods (clamp, injector, Meth etc) Diablo is a wet dream that could most definitely yield more power. IF it ever comes out. RT Flash, unreleased yet as Diablo, is another wet dream. Part of the team is currently recovering from health issue and have yet to have had info from other team members. :-( Unlike Diablo, this wouldn't give me reconfigurability, but could possibly yield better performance (I mean, they're pro tuners and they know what they're doing whereas with me and Diablo, i'd have to pussy around a lot to get a decent tune I suppose). So, what's your take on this? I'm interested in everyone's testimonials, including vendors like RT for their flash (sell me something!) and NeedsWings for their Mopar ECU offer (a whole 2$ cheaper than MPx AND they are a supporting vendor!) __________________ F/S Non-catalytic "noverter" Silver CSRT4 '09 • Eagle F1 • MS1 • PTP Inlet & WGA • RT Clamp • MPx STB • WOT Box RRM Pulley • NS1 577CC Injectors • BWoody Check Valve & Front Mount • RealTune cated DP AEM UEGO • Aeroforce Interceptor • 5.6s (w/ wheel spin) • 13.9 @ 103 • 17.8 PSI boost. • Details www.CaliberSRT4Registry.info

02-04-2010, 08:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mighty Joe Young SRT driver Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 437	Re: Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? MS1 if you can't wait and i'm sure you could get one ordered to your front steps in about 2 weeks. RT flash will most likely be worth the wait, if you want to wait that long for more power. My vote is for the MS1 since it is available right now. __________________ 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT4 - Mopar Stage 1 - MPx catted downpipe - AEM cold air intake - MPx motor mount inserts - AGP WGA holding 15/spiking 16 - Realtune Map clamp - NS1 injectors - Solenoids delete - Mopar blue plate Best 0-60 to date: 5.4 (with decent launch) 1/4 to date: TBD (still haven't been to the track yet)

02-04-2010, 08:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
MINI HEMI BLUtoyBOX Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 812	Re: Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? waaait... so your insurance compony has a problem with you modding ur car? i have USAA and they have never said anything to me. when i bought it and called to update the guy actually asked if i was gonna mod and we chatted blah blah blah. So back to my question, they gonna drop you for mods or whats the deal there? __________________ 2009 DEEP WATER BLUE HKS BOV BLK/BLUE FLANGE BWOODY CBE AGP 3" CAI BLK MPx LIGHTWEIGHT PULLEY MPx MOTOR/TRANY MOUNTS -FOR SALE $60 SHIPPED BRAND NEW- MPx SHORTY BLK MPx STB NINJA BLK MPx DUAL GUAGE A PILLAR BLK NGK IRIDIUM PLUGS -COLDER- SRT OIL CAP BLK SRT GRILL BADGE BLK TAILS BLK EYELIDS BLK RALLYARMOUR MUDFLAPS BLK STOCK WHEELS FASTES 1/4 = 13.899 @ 104MPH

02-04-2010, 08:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
rayjj "Trool" mod Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,781	Re: Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? MS1 is available, go for it! The other options will be great also, but I am like you, impatient lol! __________________ Stage 1..MPx catted downpipe..MPx dual out muffler..MPx FMIC..S1 injectors...AEM intake..AEM UEGO..AEM Digital boost gauge...Scangauge..AGP WG...AGP front mount..AGP Catch Can..BWoody Check Valve..Forge BOV...Custom hitch...309.5HP..14.1 @ 98 - a work in progress __________________________________

02-04-2010, 09:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Touzi SRT racer Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 514	Re: Screw it. Changed insurance. Upgrading ECU. So, which should I get? Well i say dont do any of those mods for now and just do a map clamp u can do that with a stock computer and get more power out of that for now then u can with a ms1 or anything

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