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HIGHBRED8 · 07-16-2008, 11:45 PM

mopar s1 due out early october. not sure what it will change but so far its a new pcm.

otb maps are fine for daily driving if done right. one that has had good dyno tuning before put on the market will work fine because it will have a conservative enough tune to not be dangerous regardless of elevation, outside temps etc. the otb maps out now still run rich and from everyone that has them its said they have tuned out quite a bit more power out of them (street and dyno tunes) showing how conservative they are. second a otb map is not ment to be taken as a complete map, they are ment to function well on the mass population while offering those who want much room for improvement. which is exactly what the ones out do. besides all those flash tuners, reflashes etc are otb maps. if you feel like starting from scratch and making your very own custom map from zero then you can buy the current tuning module quite inexpensive and spend tons of money on a dyno to get it right. or you can pay a little more and save yourself tons in the long run to start with a otb map that someone else has spent countless hours coming up with to give you a good starting point and only spend maybe 1 hour on a dyno or street tuning till its perfect for you. to be honest this controller is 10 times safer than what we all did with the nsrt and map clamps. they worked great but you only let the pcm see 10 psi and pushed 18. if you did it right you afr's were great, but the pcm was giving you timing for 10psi not for 18. that can be an issue. but with the fic its not because you control that as well as many other parameters.

dcr got around the over boost codes first using dual map clamps, then switch to the aem fic for tuning. its not a stand alone. the pcm still controls open loop operations, the fic only comes to play while in closed loop, allowing control over fuel and timing.

anyway im tired of typing, besides its not like anyone even reads it. ive written about the tuning solutions tried and or used and its seems every time 2 posts below someone says theres no way to up boost, or how did dcr do it, or fastest calibers are in the hi 13's. fact is theres quite a few personally not shop owned csrt4's out there trapping 115+ mph, videos of one beating a modded gcsrt8, running 13.4', 13.0's etc etc. so take it for what you will, 2 tuning solutions are mentioned in this post, and a few others on this board, and how dcr has done it is too. all this info is out there plus more from the guys who actually did it with pics,vids etc, if you dont believe me go look for yourself. how come no one ever mentions that another company has gone faster than dcr without nos.

808 C-SRT4 · 07-18-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HIGHBRED8

mopar s1 due out early october. not sure what it will change but so far its a new pcm.

otb maps are fine for daily driving if done right. one that has had good dyno tuning before put on the market will work fine because it will have a conservative enough tune to not be dangerous regardless of elevation, outside temps etc. the otb maps out now still run rich and from everyone that has them its said they have tuned out quite a bit more power out of them (street and dyno tunes) showing how conservative they are. second a otb map is not ment to be taken as a complete map, they are ment to function well on the mass population while offering those who want much room for improvement. which is exactly what the ones out do. besides all those flash tuners, reflashes etc are otb maps. if you feel like starting from scratch and making your very own custom map from zero then you can buy the current tuning module quite inexpensive and spend tons of money on a dyno to get it right. or you can pay a little more and save yourself tons in the long run to start with a otb map that someone else has spent countless hours coming up with to give you a good starting point and only spend maybe 1 hour on a dyno or street tuning till its perfect for you. to be honest this controller is 10 times safer than what we all did with the nsrt and map clamps. they worked great but you only let the pcm see 10 psi and pushed 18. if you did it right you afr's were great, but the pcm was giving you timing for 10psi not for 18. that can be an issue. but with the fic its not because you control that as well as many other parameters.

dcr got around the over boost codes first using dual map clamps, then switch to the aem fic for tuning. its not a stand alone. the pcm still controls open loop operations, the fic only comes to play while in closed loop, allowing control over fuel and timing.

anyway im tired of typing, besides its not like anyone even reads it. ive written about the tuning solutions tried and or used and its seems every time 2 posts below someone says theres no way to up boost, or how did dcr do it, or fastest calibers are in the hi 13's. fact is theres quite a few personally not shop owned csrt4's out there trapping 115+ mph, videos of one beating a modded gcsrt8, running 13.4', 13.0's etc etc. so take it for what you will, 2 tuning solutions are mentioned in this post, and a few others on this board, and how dcr has done it is too. all this info is out there plus more from the guys who actually did it with pics,vids etc, if you dont believe me go look for yourself. how come no one ever mentions that another company has gone faster than dcr without nos.

thank you for the info

Aaron@Realtune · 07-23-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HIGHBRED8

ok, i just joined this forum and im sorry but its like the dark ages here. im not talking shit or trying to start anything but there just seems to be a huge lack of information. dcr has a tuning solution, and realtune has packages (rts1 and rts2) s1 is trapping 115mph+ running 13.0 and has the ability to go much faster. s2 just wen 12.5 at 119mph. as you can see by the mph those et's are way higher than what the car can do. s1 is an easy mid 12 sec car and s2 will go 11's real soon. realtunes stages include the aem fic, injectors a b/c and base maps with plenty of room to still tune.

Who are these Realtune characters you speak of?

HIGHBRED8 · 07-23-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron@Realtune

Who are these Realtune characters you speak of?

some stinky vajay jays from another forum. they think their 400hp srt is fast pff

Aaron@Realtune · 07-29-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HIGHBRED8

some stinky vajay jays from another forum. they think their 400hp srt is fast pff

Yea they stink like poops

08-16-2008, 06:43 PM

Aaron,

I was told to contact you. Tried doing it through your site but not sure if it went through. What is exactly involved in getting around the overboost code. I am new to the srt4/turbo market. Know a good deal about cars...just new to turbos. I was told that with the overboost code we couldnt do anythnig until a stage kit comes out. then I was told to contact you. So...what do you have?

PTPerformance · 09-19-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ModGuy

Aaron,

I was told to contact you. Tried doing it through your site but not sure if it went through. What is exactly involved in getting around the overboost code. I am new to the srt4/turbo market. Know a good deal about cars...just new to turbos. I was told that with the overboost code we couldnt do anythnig until a stage kit comes out. then I was told to contact you. So...what do you have?

If he didn't get a hold of you I can help you out fairly easy.

We will have several options here in the coming months, some affordable others not.

I will have several parts updates as well. PM me or hit up my section if you want to talk some about this, thanks.

Ignitiondelay · 06-29-2009, 06:07 AM

doens't the caliber have a MAF?

why not hack the signal with an ordinary piggyback? fool the ecu.

or is the overboost based on the a map reading? what exactly happens with the overboost? timing retard? fuel cut?

GreaseMonkey · 06-29-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitiondelay

doens't the caliber have a MAF?

why not hack the signal with an ordinary piggyback? fool the ecu.

or is the overboost based on the a map reading? what exactly happens with the overboost? timing retard? fuel cut?

Do you have the ability to check dates on posts?

Caliber_noob · 07-15-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitiondelay

doens't the caliber have a MAF?

why not hack the signal with an ordinary piggyback? fool the ecu.

or is the overboost based on the a map reading? what exactly happens with the overboost? timing retard? fuel cut?

The caliber is map and tip based. To get around the overboost code is to go with an Map/tip clamp. It hides the voltage signal from the pcm, and allows you to "clamps" set psi of your likings,( I.E 10psi, 14psi 16psi) to

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Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey

Do you have the ability to check dates on posts?

I do thus being..Oh say 18 days later

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07-16-2008, 11:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
HIGHBRED8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 211	mopar s1 due out early october. not sure what it will change but so far its a new pcm. otb maps are fine for daily driving if done right. one that has had good dyno tuning before put on the market will work fine because it will have a conservative enough tune to not be dangerous regardless of elevation, outside temps etc. the otb maps out now still run rich and from everyone that has them its said they have tuned out quite a bit more power out of them (street and dyno tunes) showing how conservative they are. second a otb map is not ment to be taken as a complete map, they are ment to function well on the mass population while offering those who want much room for improvement. which is exactly what the ones out do. besides all those flash tuners, reflashes etc are otb maps. if you feel like starting from scratch and making your very own custom map from zero then you can buy the current tuning module quite inexpensive and spend tons of money on a dyno to get it right. or you can pay a little more and save yourself tons in the long run to start with a otb map that someone else has spent countless hours coming up with to give you a good starting point and only spend maybe 1 hour on a dyno or street tuning till its perfect for you. to be honest this controller is 10 times safer than what we all did with the nsrt and map clamps. they worked great but you only let the pcm see 10 psi and pushed 18. if you did it right you afr's were great, but the pcm was giving you timing for 10psi not for 18. that can be an issue. but with the fic its not because you control that as well as many other parameters. dcr got around the over boost codes first using dual map clamps, then switch to the aem fic for tuning. its not a stand alone. the pcm still controls open loop operations, the fic only comes to play while in closed loop, allowing control over fuel and timing. anyway im tired of typing, besides its not like anyone even reads it. ive written about the tuning solutions tried and or used and its seems every time 2 posts below someone says theres no way to up boost, or how did dcr do it, or fastest calibers are in the hi 13's. fact is theres quite a few personally not shop owned csrt4's out there trapping 115+ mph, videos of one beating a modded gcsrt8, running 13.4', 13.0's etc etc. so take it for what you will, 2 tuning solutions are mentioned in this post, and a few others on this board, and how dcr has done it is too. all this info is out there plus more from the guys who actually did it with pics,vids etc, if you dont believe me go look for yourself. how come no one ever mentions that another company has gone faster than dcr without nos.

08-16-2008, 06:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
ModGuy Posts: n/a	Aaron, I was told to contact you. Tried doing it through your site but not sure if it went through. What is exactly involved in getting around the overboost code. I am new to the srt4/turbo market. Know a good deal about cars...just new to turbos. I was told that with the overboost code we couldnt do anythnig until a stage kit comes out. then I was told to contact you. So...what do you have?

06-29-2009, 06:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ignitiondelay Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 16	doens't the caliber have a MAF? why not hack the signal with an ordinary piggyback? fool the ecu. or is the overboost based on the a map reading? what exactly happens with the overboost? timing retard? fuel cut?